Comments on "An evaluation of hurricane superintensity in axisymmetric numerical models" by Raphaël Rousseau-Rizzi and Kerry Emanuel

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Autores principales: Makarieva, Anastassia M., Nefiodov, Andrei V., Sheil, Douglas, Nobre, Antonio Donato, Chikunov, Alexander V., Plunien, Günter, Li, Bai-Lian
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author Makarieva, Anastassia M.
Nefiodov, Andrei V.
Sheil, Douglas
Nobre, Antonio Donato
Chikunov, Alexander V.
Plunien, Günter
Li, Bai-Lian
author_facet Makarieva, Anastassia M.
Nefiodov, Andrei V.
Sheil, Douglas
Nobre, Antonio Donato
Chikunov, Alexander V.
Plunien, Günter
Li, Bai-Lian
contents In a recent paper Rousseau-Rizzi and Emanuel (2019) presented a derivation of an upper limit on maximum hurricane velocity at the surface. This derivation was based on a consideration of an infinitely narrow (differential) Carnot cycle with the warmer isotherm at the point of the maximum wind velocity. Here we show that this derivation neglected a significant term describing the kinetic energy change in the outflow. Additionally, we highlight the importance of a proper accounting for the power needed to lift liquid water. Finally, we provide a revision to the formula for surface fluxes of heat and momentum showing that, if we accept the assumptions adopted by Rousseau-Rizzi and Emanuel (2019), the resulting velocity estimate does not depend on the flux of sensible heat.
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spellingShingle Comments on "An evaluation of hurricane superintensity in axisymmetric numerical models" by Raphaël Rousseau-Rizzi and Kerry Emanuel
Makarieva, Anastassia M.
Nefiodov, Andrei V.
Sheil, Douglas
Nobre, Antonio Donato
Chikunov, Alexander V.
Plunien, Günter
Li, Bai-Lian
Atmospheric and Oceanic Physics
Fluid Dynamics
In a recent paper Rousseau-Rizzi and Emanuel (2019) presented a derivation of an upper limit on maximum hurricane velocity at the surface. This derivation was based on a consideration of an infinitely narrow (differential) Carnot cycle with the warmer isotherm at the point of the maximum wind velocity. Here we show that this derivation neglected a significant term describing the kinetic energy change in the outflow. Additionally, we highlight the importance of a proper accounting for the power needed to lift liquid water. Finally, we provide a revision to the formula for surface fluxes of heat and momentum showing that, if we accept the assumptions adopted by Rousseau-Rizzi and Emanuel (2019), the resulting velocity estimate does not depend on the flux of sensible heat.
title Comments on "An evaluation of hurricane superintensity in axisymmetric numerical models" by Raphaël Rousseau-Rizzi and Kerry Emanuel
topic Atmospheric and Oceanic Physics
Fluid Dynamics
url https://arxiv.org/abs/2005.11522