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Main Authors: Rahman, Adel A, Susskind, Leonard
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Published: 2023
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Online Access:https://arxiv.org/abs/2312.04097
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author Rahman, Adel A
Susskind, Leonard
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Susskind, Leonard
contents The double-scaled infinite temperature limit of the SYK model has been conjectured by Rahman and Susskind (RS) [1, 2, 3, 4], and independently by Verlinde [5] to be dual to a certain low dimensional de Sitter space. In a recent discussion of this conjecture Narovlansky and Verlinde (NV) [6] came to conclusions which radically differ from those of RS. In particular these conclusions disagree by factors which diverge as $N \to \infty$. Among these is a mismatch between the scaling of boundary entropy and bulk horizon area. In this note, we point out differences in two key assumptions made by RS and NV which lead to these mismatches, and explain why we think the RS assumptions are correct. When the NV assumptions, which we believe are unwarranted, are replaced by those of RS, the conclusions match both RS and the standard relation between entropy and area. In the process of discussing these, we will shed some light on: the various notions of temperature that appear in the duality; the relationship between Hamiltonian energy and bulk mass; and the location of bulk conical defect states in the spectrum of DSSYK$_{\infty}$.
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spellingShingle Comments on a Paper by Narovlansky and Verlinde
Rahman, Adel A
Susskind, Leonard
High Energy Physics - Theory
The double-scaled infinite temperature limit of the SYK model has been conjectured by Rahman and Susskind (RS) [1, 2, 3, 4], and independently by Verlinde [5] to be dual to a certain low dimensional de Sitter space. In a recent discussion of this conjecture Narovlansky and Verlinde (NV) [6] came to conclusions which radically differ from those of RS. In particular these conclusions disagree by factors which diverge as $N \to \infty$. Among these is a mismatch between the scaling of boundary entropy and bulk horizon area. In this note, we point out differences in two key assumptions made by RS and NV which lead to these mismatches, and explain why we think the RS assumptions are correct. When the NV assumptions, which we believe are unwarranted, are replaced by those of RS, the conclusions match both RS and the standard relation between entropy and area. In the process of discussing these, we will shed some light on: the various notions of temperature that appear in the duality; the relationship between Hamiltonian energy and bulk mass; and the location of bulk conical defect states in the spectrum of DSSYK$_{\infty}$.
title Comments on a Paper by Narovlansky and Verlinde
topic High Energy Physics - Theory
url https://arxiv.org/abs/2312.04097