Variational principles for fully coupled stochastic fluid dynamics across scales

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Main Authors: Debussche, Arnaud, Mémin, Etienne
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author Debussche, Arnaud
Mémin, Etienne
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Mémin, Etienne
contents This work investigates variational frameworks for modeling stochastic dynamics in incompressible fluids, focusing on large-scale fluid behavior alongside small-scale stochastic processes. The authors aim to develop a coupled system of equations that captures both scales, using a variational principle formulated with Lagrangians defined on the full flow, and incorporating stochastic transport constraints. The approach smooths the noise term along time, leading to stochastic dynamics as a regularization parameter approaches zero. Initially, fixed noise terms are considered, resulting in a generalized stochastic Euler equation, which becomes problematic as the regularization parameter diminishes. The study then examines connections with existing stochastic frameworks and proposes a new variational principle that couples noise dynamics with large-scale fluid motion. This comprehensive framework provides a stochastic representation of large-scale dynamics while accounting for fine-scale components. Our main result is that the evolution of the small-scale velocity component is governed by a linearized Euler equation with random coefficients, influenced by large-scale transport, stretching, and pressure forcing.
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spellingShingle Variational principles for fully coupled stochastic fluid dynamics across scales
Debussche, Arnaud
Mémin, Etienne
Fluid Dynamics
Mathematical Physics
This work investigates variational frameworks for modeling stochastic dynamics in incompressible fluids, focusing on large-scale fluid behavior alongside small-scale stochastic processes. The authors aim to develop a coupled system of equations that captures both scales, using a variational principle formulated with Lagrangians defined on the full flow, and incorporating stochastic transport constraints. The approach smooths the noise term along time, leading to stochastic dynamics as a regularization parameter approaches zero. Initially, fixed noise terms are considered, resulting in a generalized stochastic Euler equation, which becomes problematic as the regularization parameter diminishes. The study then examines connections with existing stochastic frameworks and proposes a new variational principle that couples noise dynamics with large-scale fluid motion. This comprehensive framework provides a stochastic representation of large-scale dynamics while accounting for fine-scale components. Our main result is that the evolution of the small-scale velocity component is governed by a linearized Euler equation with random coefficients, influenced by large-scale transport, stretching, and pressure forcing.
title Variational principles for fully coupled stochastic fluid dynamics across scales
topic Fluid Dynamics
Mathematical Physics
url https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.12654