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| contents | In the type II von Neumann algebras that appear in semiclassical gravity, all states have infinite entropy, but entropy differences are uniquely defined. Akers and I have shown that the entropy difference of microcanonical states has a relative state-counting interpretation in terms of the additional (finite) number of degrees of freedom that are needed to represent the "larger-entropy" state supposing that one already has a representation of the "smaller-entropy" state, and supposing that one is restricted to act with gauge-invariant operators. This short paper explains some of the curious features of relative state-counting by analogy to the classical limit of quantum statistical mechanics. In this analogy the preferred family of renormalized traces becomes the preferred family of symplectic measures on phase space; the trace-index of infinite-dimensional subspaces becomes the ratio of phase space volumes; and the restriction that one must act with gauge-invariant operators becomes the restriction that one must act with symplectomorphisms. Because in the phase-space analogy one has exact control over the quantum deformation away from the classical theory, one can see precisely how the relevant aspects of the classical structure are inherited from the quantum theory -- though even in this simple setting, it is a nontrivial technical task to show how classical symplectomorphisms emerge from the underlying quantum theory in the $\hbar \to 0$ limit. |
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| spellingShingle | A classical model for semiclassical state-counting Sorce, Jonathan High Energy Physics - Theory Quantum Physics In the type II von Neumann algebras that appear in semiclassical gravity, all states have infinite entropy, but entropy differences are uniquely defined. Akers and I have shown that the entropy difference of microcanonical states has a relative state-counting interpretation in terms of the additional (finite) number of degrees of freedom that are needed to represent the "larger-entropy" state supposing that one already has a representation of the "smaller-entropy" state, and supposing that one is restricted to act with gauge-invariant operators. This short paper explains some of the curious features of relative state-counting by analogy to the classical limit of quantum statistical mechanics. In this analogy the preferred family of renormalized traces becomes the preferred family of symplectic measures on phase space; the trace-index of infinite-dimensional subspaces becomes the ratio of phase space volumes; and the restriction that one must act with gauge-invariant operators becomes the restriction that one must act with symplectomorphisms. Because in the phase-space analogy one has exact control over the quantum deformation away from the classical theory, one can see precisely how the relevant aspects of the classical structure are inherited from the quantum theory -- though even in this simple setting, it is a nontrivial technical task to show how classical symplectomorphisms emerge from the underlying quantum theory in the $\hbar \to 0$ limit. |
| title | A classical model for semiclassical state-counting |
| topic | High Energy Physics - Theory Quantum Physics |
| url | https://arxiv.org/abs/2501.16437 |