A Game for Counting Logic Formula Size and an Application to Linear Orders

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Main Authors: Fournier, Gregoire, Turán, György
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Turán, György
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Turán, György
contents Ehrenfeucht-Fraïssé (EF) games are a basic tool in finite model theory for proving definability lower bounds, with many applications in complexity theory and related areas. They have been applied to study various logics, giving insights on quantifier rank and other logical complexity measures. In this paper, we present an EF game to capture formula size in counting logic with a bounded number of variables. The game combines games introduced previously for counting logic quantifier rank due to Immerman and Lander, and for first-order formula size due to Adler and Immerman, and Hella and Väänänen. The game is used to prove the main result of the paper, an extension of a formula size lower bound of Grohe and Schweikardt for distinguishing linear orders, from 3-variable first-order logic to 3-variable counting logic. As far as we know, this is the first formula size lower bound for counting logic.
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spellingShingle A Game for Counting Logic Formula Size and an Application to Linear Orders
Fournier, Gregoire
Turán, György
Logic in Computer Science
Ehrenfeucht-Fraïssé (EF) games are a basic tool in finite model theory for proving definability lower bounds, with many applications in complexity theory and related areas. They have been applied to study various logics, giving insights on quantifier rank and other logical complexity measures. In this paper, we present an EF game to capture formula size in counting logic with a bounded number of variables. The game combines games introduced previously for counting logic quantifier rank due to Immerman and Lander, and for first-order formula size due to Adler and Immerman, and Hella and Väänänen. The game is used to prove the main result of the paper, an extension of a formula size lower bound of Grohe and Schweikardt for distinguishing linear orders, from 3-variable first-order logic to 3-variable counting logic. As far as we know, this is the first formula size lower bound for counting logic.
title A Game for Counting Logic Formula Size and an Application to Linear Orders
topic Logic in Computer Science
url https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.16185