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| author | Hoffelner, Stefan |
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| contents | Assuming $M_1$, the canonical inner model with one Woodin cardinal exists, we construct a model in which the nonstationary ideal on $ω_1$ is $\aleph_2$-saturated, $Δ_1$-definable with $ω_1$ as the only parameter and there is a $Σ^1_{4}$-definable well-order of the reals. This implies that contrary to the assumption that $NS_{ω_1}$ is $\aleph_1$-dense, the assumption of $NS_{ω_1}$ being saturated and $Δ_1$-definable does not imply any nice structural properties for the projective subsets of the reals. |
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| spellingShingle | $\text{NS}_{ω_1}$ saturated, $Δ_1 ( \{ ω_1 \} )$-definable and a $Δ^1_4$-definable well-order of the reals Hoffelner, Stefan Logic Assuming $M_1$, the canonical inner model with one Woodin cardinal exists, we construct a model in which the nonstationary ideal on $ω_1$ is $\aleph_2$-saturated, $Δ_1$-definable with $ω_1$ as the only parameter and there is a $Σ^1_{4}$-definable well-order of the reals. This implies that contrary to the assumption that $NS_{ω_1}$ is $\aleph_1$-dense, the assumption of $NS_{ω_1}$ being saturated and $Δ_1$-definable does not imply any nice structural properties for the projective subsets of the reals. |
| title | $\text{NS}_{ω_1}$ saturated, $Δ_1 ( \{ ω_1 \} )$-definable and a $Δ^1_4$-definable well-order of the reals |
| topic | Logic |
| url | https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.01183 |