Is it worth the effort to find Lefschetz thimbles? Integration contours with numerically optimal signal-to-noise ratios in simple fermionic toy models
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| author | Pasztor, Attila Pesznyak, David |
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| contents | We perform a detailed analysis of the fermionic sign problem in a series of one dimensional integrals, that are achieved as extreme (one-site) limits of genuine physics models. Altogether we studied a Hubbard-like, a Gross-Neveu-like, a Thirring-like and a Chern-Simons-like integral. We compare the Lefschetz-thimble structure for these integrals with contours obtained with the holomorphic flow equations at different flow-times and with numerically optimized continuous integration contours, defined by a maximal value of the expectation values of the phases. With the holomorphic flow equation, we perform the large flow-time limit, so that the average phase corresponds to its value on the thimbles. In some of these integrals (the Hubbard-, Gross-Neveu-, and Chern-Simons-like integrals), we observe that the convergence to this value is not monotonic, meaning that there is an optimal flow-time where the sign problem is weaker than it is on the thimbles. Furthermore, we find that for all of these toy models, numerical optimization can find continuous contours on which the sign problem is considerably weaker than it is both on the thimbles and at flowed integration contours at the optimal flow-time. |
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| spellingShingle | Is it worth the effort to find Lefschetz thimbles? Integration contours with numerically optimal signal-to-noise ratios in simple fermionic toy models Pasztor, Attila Pesznyak, David High Energy Physics - Lattice We perform a detailed analysis of the fermionic sign problem in a series of one dimensional integrals, that are achieved as extreme (one-site) limits of genuine physics models. Altogether we studied a Hubbard-like, a Gross-Neveu-like, a Thirring-like and a Chern-Simons-like integral. We compare the Lefschetz-thimble structure for these integrals with contours obtained with the holomorphic flow equations at different flow-times and with numerically optimized continuous integration contours, defined by a maximal value of the expectation values of the phases. With the holomorphic flow equation, we perform the large flow-time limit, so that the average phase corresponds to its value on the thimbles. In some of these integrals (the Hubbard-, Gross-Neveu-, and Chern-Simons-like integrals), we observe that the convergence to this value is not monotonic, meaning that there is an optimal flow-time where the sign problem is weaker than it is on the thimbles. Furthermore, we find that for all of these toy models, numerical optimization can find continuous contours on which the sign problem is considerably weaker than it is both on the thimbles and at flowed integration contours at the optimal flow-time. |
| title | Is it worth the effort to find Lefschetz thimbles? Integration contours with numerically optimal signal-to-noise ratios in simple fermionic toy models |
| topic | High Energy Physics - Lattice |
| url | https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.07881 |