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| author | Zhao, Lu Shi, Rong Zhang, Shaoqing Su, Shangchao Yin, Ziqing Cui, Zhiyan Sun, Hongfeng He, Baoguo Chen, Yueqiang Dong, Liang Li, Xiyuan Wang, Lingbin Ma, Lijun Huang, Qiang Liu, Ting Wang, Chong Wei, Can |
| author_facet | Zhao, Lu Shi, Rong Zhang, Shaoqing Su, Shangchao Yin, Ziqing Cui, Zhiyan Sun, Hongfeng He, Baoguo Chen, Yueqiang Dong, Liang Li, Xiyuan Wang, Lingbin Ma, Lijun Huang, Qiang Liu, Ting Wang, Chong Wei, Can |
| contents | The exponential growth in LLM scales, with parameters soaring from billions to trillions, has necessitated distributed pretraining across large clusters comprising thousands to tens of thousands of devices. While hybrid parallelization strategies enable such pretraining, the vast combinatorial strategy space introduces significant optimization challenges. Traditional manual tuning methods incur prohibitive trial-and-error costs, and existing performance modeling approaches exhibit critical limitations: they fail to comprehensively account for prevalent optimization features and ignore the substantial overhead imposed by essential fault tolerance mechanisms like checkpoint recovery in long-duration pretraining. To address these gaps, we propose MoFa, a novel pretraining performance modeling framework that unifies multi-dimensional optimization features and fault tolerance. MoFa incorporates an enhanced cost model to accurately capture the effects of key optimizations and integrates a fault tolerance model based on historical cluster reliability data. Besides, a MoFa-based tuning system is developed to explore optimal pretraining performance and potential bottlenecks in various scenarios. Extensive modeling evaluations demonstrate that MoFa can achieve high prediction accuracy across various scenarios. In addition, through comprehensive tuning experiments, our framework systematically reveals the key factors influencing pretraining performance under different configurations, which provides solid a priori guidance for LLM pretraining system design and deployment. |
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| spellingShingle | MoFa: A Unified Performance Modeling Framework for LLM Pretraining Zhao, Lu Shi, Rong Zhang, Shaoqing Su, Shangchao Yin, Ziqing Cui, Zhiyan Sun, Hongfeng He, Baoguo Chen, Yueqiang Dong, Liang Li, Xiyuan Wang, Lingbin Ma, Lijun Huang, Qiang Liu, Ting Wang, Chong Wei, Can Distributed, Parallel, and Cluster Computing The exponential growth in LLM scales, with parameters soaring from billions to trillions, has necessitated distributed pretraining across large clusters comprising thousands to tens of thousands of devices. While hybrid parallelization strategies enable such pretraining, the vast combinatorial strategy space introduces significant optimization challenges. Traditional manual tuning methods incur prohibitive trial-and-error costs, and existing performance modeling approaches exhibit critical limitations: they fail to comprehensively account for prevalent optimization features and ignore the substantial overhead imposed by essential fault tolerance mechanisms like checkpoint recovery in long-duration pretraining. To address these gaps, we propose MoFa, a novel pretraining performance modeling framework that unifies multi-dimensional optimization features and fault tolerance. MoFa incorporates an enhanced cost model to accurately capture the effects of key optimizations and integrates a fault tolerance model based on historical cluster reliability data. Besides, a MoFa-based tuning system is developed to explore optimal pretraining performance and potential bottlenecks in various scenarios. Extensive modeling evaluations demonstrate that MoFa can achieve high prediction accuracy across various scenarios. In addition, through comprehensive tuning experiments, our framework systematically reveals the key factors influencing pretraining performance under different configurations, which provides solid a priori guidance for LLM pretraining system design and deployment. |
| title | MoFa: A Unified Performance Modeling Framework for LLM Pretraining |
| topic | Distributed, Parallel, and Cluster Computing |
| url | https://arxiv.org/abs/2511.09837 |