An improved lower bound to Erdos' problem concerning products of distances for fixed diameter

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contents Erdos, Herzog and Piranian asked whether, for $n$ points in the plane with fixed diameter (maximum distance between points), an arrangement of a regular $n$-gon maximizes their product of all pairs of distances. Recently, it was discovered that, for every even $n \geq 4$, a regular $n$-gon is not a maximizer. However, the discovered improvement turns out to be very small. Indeed, for a fixed diameter of $2$, let $Δ$ be the square of the product of all pairs of distances (the "square" is here due to connections with polynomial discriminants). Then, for a regular $n$-gon, $Δ= n^n$ for even $n$. The discovered arrangements have proven $Δ= (1+o(1))n^n$ thus far, and it was not known whether one can have $Δ\geq C n^n$ for some $C > 1$ and all sufficiently large even $n$. In this note, we show that indeed $\liminf_{n\to\infty} Δ_{\max}/n^n > 1.037$ for even $n$ which settles this conjecture. Other arrangements with higher conjectured $Δ/n^n$ values are in fact known, but we have not been able to obtain proofs that they have large products of distances. Finally, no arrangements such that $Δ/n^n \to \infty$ are known and we do not know whether they exist.
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spellingShingle An improved lower bound to Erdos' problem concerning products of distances for fixed diameter
Sothanaphan, Nat
Metric Geometry
Combinatorics
52C10
Erdos, Herzog and Piranian asked whether, for $n$ points in the plane with fixed diameter (maximum distance between points), an arrangement of a regular $n$-gon maximizes their product of all pairs of distances. Recently, it was discovered that, for every even $n \geq 4$, a regular $n$-gon is not a maximizer. However, the discovered improvement turns out to be very small. Indeed, for a fixed diameter of $2$, let $Δ$ be the square of the product of all pairs of distances (the "square" is here due to connections with polynomial discriminants). Then, for a regular $n$-gon, $Δ= n^n$ for even $n$. The discovered arrangements have proven $Δ= (1+o(1))n^n$ thus far, and it was not known whether one can have $Δ\geq C n^n$ for some $C > 1$ and all sufficiently large even $n$. In this note, we show that indeed $\liminf_{n\to\infty} Δ_{\max}/n^n > 1.037$ for even $n$ which settles this conjecture. Other arrangements with higher conjectured $Δ/n^n$ values are in fact known, but we have not been able to obtain proofs that they have large products of distances. Finally, no arrangements such that $Δ/n^n \to \infty$ are known and we do not know whether they exist.
title An improved lower bound to Erdos' problem concerning products of distances for fixed diameter
topic Metric Geometry
Combinatorics
52C10
url https://arxiv.org/abs/2512.14251