On the importance of stochasticity in closures of turbulence

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Main Authors: Freitas, André, Biferale, Luca, Desbrun, Mathieu, Eyink, Gregory, Mailybaev, Alexei A., Um, Kiwon
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author Freitas, André
Biferale, Luca
Desbrun, Mathieu
Eyink, Gregory
Mailybaev, Alexei A.
Um, Kiwon
author_facet Freitas, André
Biferale, Luca
Desbrun, Mathieu
Eyink, Gregory
Mailybaev, Alexei A.
Um, Kiwon
contents Deterministic closures for coarse-grained turbulence models help reproduce mean statistics, but often fail to capture the finite-time growth of uncertainty. Using the framework of shell models as a quantitative multi-scale testbed, we compare fully resolved simulations with large-eddy simulations using either stochastic or deterministic subgrid closures. While in the fully resolved system a single microscopic perturbation is rapidly amplified by strongly chaotic dynamics, truncation produces a strong delay and suppression of variance growth when uncertainty is introduced through initial condition perturbations only. We show that a data-driven Langevin-type stochastic closure restores the correct timing and magnitude of variance growth across scales, demonstrating that sustained stochasticity is essential for predictability in reduced turbulent dynamics.
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spellingShingle On the importance of stochasticity in closures of turbulence
Freitas, André
Biferale, Luca
Desbrun, Mathieu
Eyink, Gregory
Mailybaev, Alexei A.
Um, Kiwon
Fluid Dynamics
Chaotic Dynamics
Computational Physics
Deterministic closures for coarse-grained turbulence models help reproduce mean statistics, but often fail to capture the finite-time growth of uncertainty. Using the framework of shell models as a quantitative multi-scale testbed, we compare fully resolved simulations with large-eddy simulations using either stochastic or deterministic subgrid closures. While in the fully resolved system a single microscopic perturbation is rapidly amplified by strongly chaotic dynamics, truncation produces a strong delay and suppression of variance growth when uncertainty is introduced through initial condition perturbations only. We show that a data-driven Langevin-type stochastic closure restores the correct timing and magnitude of variance growth across scales, demonstrating that sustained stochasticity is essential for predictability in reduced turbulent dynamics.
title On the importance of stochasticity in closures of turbulence
topic Fluid Dynamics
Chaotic Dynamics
Computational Physics
url https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.19875