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Main Authors: Cohen, Tal, Vigdorovich, Itamar
Format: Preprint
Published: 2026
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Online Access:https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.09640
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author Cohen, Tal
Vigdorovich, Itamar
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Vigdorovich, Itamar
contents We show that a topologically generating set $S$ of a connected compact Lie group $G$ of size larger than a fixed polynomial in the rank of $G$ must be redundant (i.e., some proper subset of $S$ still topologically generates $G$). Similar results are obtained for amenable Lie groups and for reductive algebraic groups with the Zariski topology. The quantitative bounds produced by our method are controlled by corresponding bounds for finite simple groups of Lie type. We also treat redundancy up to Nielsen transformations, thereby partially answering a few conjectures of Gelander. We show that these conjectures are implied by the Wiegold conjecture.
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spellingShingle On the Maximal Size of Irredundant Generating Sets in Lie Groups and Algebraic Groups
Cohen, Tal
Vigdorovich, Itamar
Group Theory
We show that a topologically generating set $S$ of a connected compact Lie group $G$ of size larger than a fixed polynomial in the rank of $G$ must be redundant (i.e., some proper subset of $S$ still topologically generates $G$). Similar results are obtained for amenable Lie groups and for reductive algebraic groups with the Zariski topology. The quantitative bounds produced by our method are controlled by corresponding bounds for finite simple groups of Lie type. We also treat redundancy up to Nielsen transformations, thereby partially answering a few conjectures of Gelander. We show that these conjectures are implied by the Wiegold conjecture.
title On the Maximal Size of Irredundant Generating Sets in Lie Groups and Algebraic Groups
topic Group Theory
url https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.09640