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Main Author: Kuehnel, Frank O.
Format: Preprint
Published: 2026
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Online Access:https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.02252
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contents Fast prototyping of new SE(3) estimation objectives remains awkward in practice. Modern Lie-group frameworks -- GTSAM, manif, Sophus, SymForce, Ceres -- target first-order workloads through different code-generation and automatic-differentiation strategies, each optimized for a particular seam between hand-derived geometry and generic differentiation. The remaining gap is a compact, AD-safe path from these first-order primitives to exact Hessians, observed-information matrices, and higher-order derivative tensors: the quantities needed for exact Newton steps, observed-information covariance estimates, and covariance correction. This paper presents a hybrid analytical/AD recipe for SE(3) negative log-likelihoods. The practitioner writes the NLL gradient once, generic over a scalar type, and places the analytical/AD seam at the point-action interface y = Tx. Closed-form Lie-group Jacobians are used up to this interface; AD is applied only beyond it. The same source is then instantiated with ordinary floating-point scalars for gradients, vector-seeded dual numbers for exact Hessians in a single forward-mode pass, and nested dual numbers for higher-order derivative tensors. On a representative 6-DoF, 5-landmark SE(3) NLL, the advocated seeded-Hessian path is approximately 5x faster than finite-differencing the AD gradient on this benchmark while matching a nested-AD oracle to machine precision. The implementation adds roughly 70 lines of analytical-Jacobian code over an AD-only baseline. We also identify and fix a removable singularity in the standard SO(3)/SE(3) scalar basis that would otherwise produce NaNs at the origin under seeded AD, and we audit which Lie-group derivative tensors require this stabilized basis. The result is a practical path from rapidly written SE(3) objectives to exact higher-order derivatives, with predictable runtime and no finite-difference tuning.
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spellingShingle Exact Higher-Order Derivatives for SE(3) via Analytical/AD Methods
Kuehnel, Frank O.
Robotics
Mathematical Software
I.2.9
Fast prototyping of new SE(3) estimation objectives remains awkward in practice. Modern Lie-group frameworks -- GTSAM, manif, Sophus, SymForce, Ceres -- target first-order workloads through different code-generation and automatic-differentiation strategies, each optimized for a particular seam between hand-derived geometry and generic differentiation. The remaining gap is a compact, AD-safe path from these first-order primitives to exact Hessians, observed-information matrices, and higher-order derivative tensors: the quantities needed for exact Newton steps, observed-information covariance estimates, and covariance correction. This paper presents a hybrid analytical/AD recipe for SE(3) negative log-likelihoods. The practitioner writes the NLL gradient once, generic over a scalar type, and places the analytical/AD seam at the point-action interface y = Tx. Closed-form Lie-group Jacobians are used up to this interface; AD is applied only beyond it. The same source is then instantiated with ordinary floating-point scalars for gradients, vector-seeded dual numbers for exact Hessians in a single forward-mode pass, and nested dual numbers for higher-order derivative tensors. On a representative 6-DoF, 5-landmark SE(3) NLL, the advocated seeded-Hessian path is approximately 5x faster than finite-differencing the AD gradient on this benchmark while matching a nested-AD oracle to machine precision. The implementation adds roughly 70 lines of analytical-Jacobian code over an AD-only baseline. We also identify and fix a removable singularity in the standard SO(3)/SE(3) scalar basis that would otherwise produce NaNs at the origin under seeded AD, and we audit which Lie-group derivative tensors require this stabilized basis. The result is a practical path from rapidly written SE(3) objectives to exact higher-order derivatives, with predictable runtime and no finite-difference tuning.
title Exact Higher-Order Derivatives for SE(3) via Analytical/AD Methods
topic Robotics
Mathematical Software
I.2.9
url https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.02252